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		<title>By: dmcole</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew:

Your problem is specific to your programmer and AVR Studio; I use AVRDude and the LadyAda USBtinyISP, so I can&#039;t be much help here.

I&#039;d suggest you find the forum for your programmer and ask for help there.

Best of luck.

\dmc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew:</p>
<p>Your problem is specific to your programmer and AVR Studio; I use AVRDude and the LadyAda USBtinyISP, so I can&#8217;t be much help here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest you find the forum for your programmer and ask for help there.</p>
<p>Best of luck.</p>
<p>\dmc</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew McInnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew McInnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I&#039;ve connected it all up, I get 2 green LED&#039;s on the avr isp as hendrik, describes, after the following:

I open his text file in avr studio, power the transceiver. Then I compile and run the code. All is OK. Next I click connect button, choose avrispmk2 and usb and press connect. I get my 2 green leds on the avrisp, all is well.

Then when I try to read from the chip, I get &quot;avr studio entering programming mode failed&quot; 

Why is this, I don&#039;t understand, have I missed something critical?

Hope you can help,

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve connected it all up, I get 2 green LED&#8217;s on the avr isp as hendrik, describes, after the following:</p>
<p>I open his text file in avr studio, power the transceiver. Then I compile and run the code. All is OK. Next I click connect button, choose avrispmk2 and usb and press connect. I get my 2 green leds on the avrisp, all is well.</p>
<p>Then when I try to read from the chip, I get &#8220;avr studio entering programming mode failed&#8221; </p>
<p>Why is this, I don&#8217;t understand, have I missed something critical?</p>
<p>Hope you can help,</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: dmcole</title>
		<link>http://www.dmcole.net/index.php/hennes-dmx-transceiver/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>dmcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy:

Lots o&#039; questions:

So you are building based on Henne&#039;s schematic at http://www.hoelscher-hi.de/hendrik/english/dimmer.htm ?

If so, using a 9v wall wart should be fine; if the wart is outputting DC, the rectifier in that circuit should just be redundant and shouldn&#039;t be a problem. There should be no polarity issues either. My memory is that there is no &quot;power&quot; LED in the schematic, so when you are applying power before the chip is programmed, you shouldn&#039;t see either LED light.

You are mixing up the meaning of &quot;ground&quot; and &quot;earth&quot; ... the negative buss on the circuit does not go to &quot;earth&quot; (as in &quot;grounded&quot;) -- it is just a common connection to the negative side of the circuit. It doesn&#039;t need to go to &quot;earth.&quot;

You should be able to program the chip in-circuit, provided you give the circuit power. I believe the 10-pin AVR ISP header provides power, but the six-pin does not.

I am not familiar with the AVR ISP Mk2, so I Googled it. The picture looks like it has a ribbon cable coming out with a 2x3 connector on it. Henne&#039;s schematic shows a straight row of six pins ... you&#039;ll need to change that to two rows of three pins. This is tough to do on a breadboard (you didn&#039;t say whether you&#039;re working on a bb or not). Short of buying something like this ... http://zovirl.com/2007/10/21/avr-isp-header-for-breadboards/ ... or this ... http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8508 ... you can make one up with a 2 x 3 header soldered to a piece of protoboard and then solder some wires to the pins. (Again, a quick Google found me this page, which has another alternative -- bending the long pins on a 2 x 3 header: http://imakeprojects.com/Projects/avr-tutorial/ )

Once you apply power to the circuit and connect the ribbon cable to the header, you should be fine. You don&#039;t need to jumper anything to put the chip into programming mode (that last URL is a good tutorial on programming an AVR chip).

Hope this helps.

\dmc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy:</p>
<p>Lots o&#8217; questions:</p>
<p>So you are building based on Henne&#8217;s schematic at <a href="http://www.hoelscher-hi.de/hendrik/english/dimmer.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.hoelscher-hi.de/hendrik/english/dimmer.htm</a> ?</p>
<p>If so, using a 9v wall wart should be fine; if the wart is outputting DC, the rectifier in that circuit should just be redundant and shouldn&#8217;t be a problem. There should be no polarity issues either. My memory is that there is no &#8220;power&#8221; LED in the schematic, so when you are applying power before the chip is programmed, you shouldn&#8217;t see either LED light.</p>
<p>You are mixing up the meaning of &#8220;ground&#8221; and &#8220;earth&#8221; &#8230; the negative buss on the circuit does not go to &#8220;earth&#8221; (as in &#8220;grounded&#8221;) &#8212; it is just a common connection to the negative side of the circuit. It doesn&#8217;t need to go to &#8220;earth.&#8221;</p>
<p>You should be able to program the chip in-circuit, provided you give the circuit power. I believe the 10-pin AVR ISP header provides power, but the six-pin does not.</p>
<p>I am not familiar with the AVR ISP Mk2, so I Googled it. The picture looks like it has a ribbon cable coming out with a 2&#215;3 connector on it. Henne&#8217;s schematic shows a straight row of six pins &#8230; you&#8217;ll need to change that to two rows of three pins. This is tough to do on a breadboard (you didn&#8217;t say whether you&#8217;re working on a bb or not). Short of buying something like this &#8230; <a href="http://zovirl.com/2007/10/21/avr-isp-header-for-breadboards/" rel="nofollow">http://zovirl.com/2007/10/21/avr-isp-header-for-breadboards/</a> &#8230; or this &#8230; <a href="http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8508" rel="nofollow">http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8508</a> &#8230; you can make one up with a 2 x 3 header soldered to a piece of protoboard and then solder some wires to the pins. (Again, a quick Google found me this page, which has another alternative &#8212; bending the long pins on a 2 x 3 header: <a href="http://imakeprojects.com/Projects/avr-tutorial/" rel="nofollow">http://imakeprojects.com/Projects/avr-tutorial/</a> )</p>
<p>Once you apply power to the circuit and connect the ribbon cable to the header, you should be fine. You don&#8217;t need to jumper anything to put the chip into programming mode (that last URL is a good tutorial on programming an AVR chip).</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>\dmc</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew McInnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew McInnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 21:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I am back on with the transceiver again, after some time! Any way I&#039;ve built the board and have just bought an AVR ISP Mk2 to programme the chip. However.... I can&#039;t seem to power up the board. Now my circuit understanding is very limited being quite new to all this, so excuse my dumb question...

I&#039;ve built it and it looks like the one on hennes site. I have a Korg wall wart rate 9v 600ma which I believe meets the circuits requirements. But I&#039;ve tried connecting it up and I get no lights on at all. I&#039;ve attached the power to pins 1 and 2 next to the rectifier. I think this is right and it can take ac or dc, I am supplying DC. 

So for the dumb question, does it matter which pin negative or positive go to and do I need to connect anything else to anything else. I have literally followed hennes instructions. So could you tell me what connections for both power and ground I need to make and where they go. Also what do you ground it to?

Do I need to programme the chip first or, as I am using and in circuit programmer do I need to power the circuit up?

What do I connect the isp&#039;s 6 pins to in order to program the chip and does anything need to be jumpered to put the chip in to program mode?

Sorry for the newbie questions, but I hope you can help, this project has been dragging on for some time and it would be nice to get to the next stage of building some LED modules to control with it.

Thanks in advance,

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I am back on with the transceiver again, after some time! Any way I&#8217;ve built the board and have just bought an AVR ISP Mk2 to programme the chip. However&#8230;. I can&#8217;t seem to power up the board. Now my circuit understanding is very limited being quite new to all this, so excuse my dumb question&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve built it and it looks like the one on hennes site. I have a Korg wall wart rate 9v 600ma which I believe meets the circuits requirements. But I&#8217;ve tried connecting it up and I get no lights on at all. I&#8217;ve attached the power to pins 1 and 2 next to the rectifier. I think this is right and it can take ac or dc, I am supplying DC. </p>
<p>So for the dumb question, does it matter which pin negative or positive go to and do I need to connect anything else to anything else. I have literally followed hennes instructions. So could you tell me what connections for both power and ground I need to make and where they go. Also what do you ground it to?</p>
<p>Do I need to programme the chip first or, as I am using and in circuit programmer do I need to power the circuit up?</p>
<p>What do I connect the isp&#8217;s 6 pins to in order to program the chip and does anything need to be jumpered to put the chip in to program mode?</p>
<p>Sorry for the newbie questions, but I hope you can help, this project has been dragging on for some time and it would be nice to get to the next stage of building some LED modules to control with it.</p>
<p>Thanks in advance,</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: dmcole</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Malcolm:

Whew. Quite a bit of info there.

I bought my Henne-designed boards in 2008 and I got them from Germany, I&#039;m pretty sure; had no trouble getting them into the USA.

I never designed a PCB based on Henne&#039;s schematics; I was unable to make the 8x8 array work (I think it was a software problem and the array code Henne didn&#039;t share).

I too found Eagle too hard; I picked Diptrace and am happy with it so far (only schematics; haven&#039;t designed PCB with it yet).

The MR16 board is very good, but right now there is a shortage of them; RJ hasn&#039;t seen enough demand to warrant a board-run recently. You should keep an eye on Robert Martin&#039;s web store (http://shop.martinxmas.com/); he says he will be doing a run on his DMX16DC boards, which are like the MR16, except a lot smaller and somewhat cheaper to build.

Like Henne&#039;s designs, Martin shares his code, though he is an assembly fiend and doesn&#039;t write in C, making the code harder to understand.

Hope this helps.

\dmc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malcolm:</p>
<p>Whew. Quite a bit of info there.</p>
<p>I bought my Henne-designed boards in 2008 and I got them from Germany, I&#8217;m pretty sure; had no trouble getting them into the USA.</p>
<p>I never designed a PCB based on Henne&#8217;s schematics; I was unable to make the 8&#215;8 array work (I think it was a software problem and the array code Henne didn&#8217;t share).</p>
<p>I too found Eagle too hard; I picked Diptrace and am happy with it so far (only schematics; haven&#8217;t designed PCB with it yet).</p>
<p>The MR16 board is very good, but right now there is a shortage of them; RJ hasn&#8217;t seen enough demand to warrant a board-run recently. You should keep an eye on Robert Martin&#8217;s web store (<a href="http://shop.martinxmas.com/)" rel="nofollow">http://shop.martinxmas.com/)</a>; he says he will be doing a run on his DMX16DC boards, which are like the MR16, except a lot smaller and somewhat cheaper to build.</p>
<p>Like Henne&#8217;s designs, Martin shares his code, though he is an assembly fiend and doesn&#8217;t write in C, making the code harder to understand.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>\dmc</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Dyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcolm Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello DMC
I like the way you have redrawn Henne&#039;s circuits with the standardized ISP port
I have been interested in building Henne&#039;s circuit(s) and discovered the German site but they only sell to Germany and Austria.
I spent hours searching for the board or Gerber files. Have you ever designed a new PCB?
I wanted to use the standard ISP port and add a ULN2803A output buffer so I have designed one in RIMU. A fairly cheap and easy to use PCB layout software. I found Eagle too hard.
I am close to getting some made although the MR16 board looks interesting.
The advantage of Henne&#039;s circuit is having all the code for various applications.
My main purpose is to drive air solenoids for my musical fountain (http://www.dmdl.co.nz/Fountain.html) and possibly to drive LED lights as well.
I have some DMX 8x relay cards coming and hope to test the fountain with these before trying Henne&#039;s circuit to eliminate the relays.
Do you know of any other source of boards?
I would be happy to share my design but it is as yet unbuilt and untested.
Regards
Malcolm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello DMC<br />
I like the way you have redrawn Henne&#8217;s circuits with the standardized ISP port<br />
I have been interested in building Henne&#8217;s circuit(s) and discovered the German site but they only sell to Germany and Austria.<br />
I spent hours searching for the board or Gerber files. Have you ever designed a new PCB?<br />
I wanted to use the standard ISP port and add a ULN2803A output buffer so I have designed one in RIMU. A fairly cheap and easy to use PCB layout software. I found Eagle too hard.<br />
I am close to getting some made although the MR16 board looks interesting.<br />
The advantage of Henne&#8217;s circuit is having all the code for various applications.<br />
My main purpose is to drive air solenoids for my musical fountain (<a href="http://www.dmdl.co.nz/Fountain.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dmdl.co.nz/Fountain.html</a>) and possibly to drive LED lights as well.<br />
I have some DMX 8x relay cards coming and hope to test the fountain with these before trying Henne&#8217;s circuit to eliminate the relays.<br />
Do you know of any other source of boards?<br />
I would be happy to share my design but it is as yet unbuilt and untested.<br />
Regards<br />
Malcolm</p>
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		<title>By: dmcole</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy:

Here&#8217;s a basic how-to on programming Atmel chips:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dmcole.net/index.php/taking-the-atmega8-for-an-introductory-spin/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dmcole.net/index.php/taking-the-atmega8-for-an-introductory-spin/&lt;/a&gt;

But you should be able to get way more info simply by doing a search for &#8220;programming atmel chips&#8221; or somesuch.

I was able to get this breadboarded circuit to drive an 8 x 8 set of LEDs, but it didn&#8217;t perform the way I wanted it to and for now I have abandoned it.

Best o&#8217; luck.

\dmc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy:</p>
<p>Here&rsquo;s a basic how-to on programming Atmel chips:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dmcole.net/index.php/taking-the-atmega8-for-an-introductory-spin/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dmcole.net/index.php/taking-the-atmega8-for-an-introductory-spin/</a></p>
<p>But you should be able to get way more info simply by doing a search for &ldquo;programming atmel chips&rdquo; or somesuch.</p>
<p>I was able to get this breadboarded circuit to drive an 8 x 8 set of LEDs, but it didn&rsquo;t perform the way I wanted it to and for now I have abandoned it.</p>
<p>Best o&rsquo; luck.</p>
<p>\dmc</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I&#039;ve built hennes dmx circuit but have never built anything like this before. How do I programme the chip to work in the circuit and what tools will i need to do this? (can it be done by tll)

Have you got it controlling any sub circuits yet?

Thanks in advance,

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve built hennes dmx circuit but have never built anything like this before. How do I programme the chip to work in the circuit and what tools will i need to do this? (can it be done by tll)</p>
<p>Have you got it controlling any sub circuits yet?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance,</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: dmcole</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification Hendrik. I did realize the issue of the memory differences and should have included them in my post.

\dmc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification Hendrik. I did realize the issue of the memory differences and should have included them in my post.</p>
<p>\dmc</p>
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		<title>By: Henne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I chose the mega8515 because it was rather cheap (1,80EUR) and has many pins. (The mega8 cost 1,25EUR and has less pins. The TINY2313 has not enough flash mem for many applications.)

best regards,
hendrik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I chose the mega8515 because it was rather cheap (1,80EUR) and has many pins. (The mega8 cost 1,25EUR and has less pins. The TINY2313 has not enough flash mem for many applications.)</p>
<p>best regards,<br />
hendrik</p>
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